Forum for Translators: Non-Payer: Wagner Consulting International
Wagner Consulting International is spamming members of TD with job offers with ridiculous rates. Of course, this company does not usually pay its translators. Take a look at the blueboard at proz.com:
It has been banned from posting jobs at proz.com and now uses TD instead.
I accepted a seemingly very urgent but small job (350 words) which they wanted to have done late at night. They literally begged me - we agreed a price and I delivered at ca 23.00 hours; In the morning they said they had found another linguist who had done it "in an hour". In view of the urgency they pretended with me to get me to do it it seems unlikely that they bothered finding another translator at that hour of the night.
I personally believe they took my translation but don't want to pay. I'd stay away from them, they seem to cause unnecessary annoyment, their behaviour is pretty abusive. I should have checked reviews about them before engaging with them.
I should have checked this site earlier, this company seems to make many excuse to delay the payment. The total amount to receive is around USD 1,000.
The rate is so low, and they are so demanding. But the payment does never come...
Take special care not to accept any offers.
Hello. I made a simultaneous translation job for the company Wagner International during the month of April. I had some trouble with the payment being done, it was not an easy task. Neverthless, three months after, finally Wagner did pay. At last!!! They have good intentions, probably they lack inner organization and have some trouble making the payment on time, however, they do pay. My advice to those who have problems with the company in issues related with payments, is to be patient and try to solve things using dialogue. There is also some personnel in the Facebook page, that is willing to collaborate and give solutions to this type of problems. Contact them in case you dont seem to receive enough support from the other members of the company, they are honest and help out with this type of issues.
I did a huge translation job for Wagner International in 2009... More than 2,000 euros in terms of payment. We're in 2018 and I still haven't been paid.
I have tracked down Mr Wagner so many times, even threatened him to sue him or go to his agency and not leave the place until I get paid. No result at all, nothing.
I advise every translator out there to NEVER work for Wagner, otherwise you may never get paid.
Viviana might be lucky to get paid but not me. I did one job for them in May this year and until now they did not pay. They replied my email at the beginning until I told them that I will report to all blacklist websites. Don't do any work for this company.
I just got paid last night. It's the same day I posted this problem. It's quite unbelievable. However, I still suggest to stay away from this company.
I’m working with them mainly for the combination English to German. Sometimes I’ll have to send nice reminders but I always got paid. I recommend them and will continue my collaboration.
You belong to the rare and lucky people working with Wagner Consulting, Chris.
Good for you and I hope you'll keep being satisfied.
I personally belong to the people who don't have that chance. Wagner Consulting has been oowing me US$1,715 since 2010...
...OWING not oowing, sorry..
Why don´t you work things out with them, they are great people there. Ask them if they can suggest something. I don´t know what happened, but knowing them there must have been an issue. Maybe you can actually see if they are willing to come up with a solution, and then take it from there.
They suggest a solution: they'd like me to work again for them!
Honestly, how could I work again for a company who's been owing me 1715,05 American dollars for 8 years!!
All the agencies I usually work with can testify that I am an easy going person, always willing to understand and be patient when there's no other way.
I've been patient since 2010...It's more than I can take. If this company is so successful, if it's the "leading, reputed and a trusted multilingual service company as well as media agency" they claim to be on their homepage, then they should have the necessary amount to pay me.
However, and based on the recent exchanges that I had with Ullah (since Mr Wagner no longer wants to be in touch with me), the only but drastic method seems be the debt collection agency...
Pardon me Chris; but you are more than naïve with Wagner. Just by being lucky this far, that doesn't mean the rest of us have not tried all things to make any arrangement with Wagner to received the payment!!!!
I did work (Eng-Ger-Eng) for over 8000 USD
They paid me 1200 (2 months late) and are already late with the second payment. The Project Managers (most of them) are great, but the payment team sucks. I hope I will get paid eventually...
I agree that Viviana was lucky to get paid by Wagner Corp., I do strongly believe it is due to the service: simmultaneous translation.
Wagner Consulting is owing me the total amount of USD 126,00. The invoice is now overdue and they simply don't answer my emails.
I did this job on August the 20th, the invoice was sent and nothing...
They're the tough kind.
I contacted a debt collector two months ago to try and get my money and it's hard for them too...
Hello dear Floriane:
I would like you to share the debt collector contact data to ask the same collecting service, if possible.
Thank you very much for that excellent thought, and for sharing it at this forum.
Ps. Once I clarified and supported my claim Wagner never reply, nor carry out any payment in my case. Conclusion: Wagner Corp. pays by miracle or by caprice, only. Better to stay away from this company.
Oh! It is a shame to read about that. I had some small hope the debt collector to be a solution for our misfortune with Wagner corp. Thank you very much for sharing your debt collector news with us. That depicts the real type of management and corp,. Wagner shamefully is. Terrible company in deed.
Hello Isabel: that's not new nor surprising from Wagner corp. They are very nice by e-mail, seeming comprehensive and supportive in the beginning. Then, they just never reply any more. I got to know about this website just by chance, after finding Wagner being banned at proz.com. I tried to get paid, and I only got cheap excuses and pretextes from the payroll person. The result: payment not received yet..
I had much the same experience 10-12 years ago. I did a lot of work for them for a year or so and at first thought that they were a decent client. Then the payments started coming later and later, but after I asked what was going on they came. I did several more big jobs for them, thinking that we had a good relationship, but after an inordinate amount of time without payment and numerous unanswered emails, I finally threatened legal action. By then I had long since stopped accepting any more jobs. I finally did get paid most of what I was owed (several thousand dollars), and they even had the nerve to ask me if I were interested in more projects. The reason I'm making this post now after so many years is because they just contacted me a day or so ago (different project manager) about working for them again. I notice that they have been banned from ProZ and judging from the recent posts that I have seen on-line, it doesn't look like much has changed. So needless to say I told them I had no desire to work with them again. In my personal opinion, I think that this outfit would be a good one to stay away from!
Wagner did not solve an international bank transfer payment for my services, notifying they didn't received the returned bank transfer they did. It's not replying my request e-mail messages. I was fired from one job position there for being victim of work moral harrassment.I denounced that situation as a victim, and they decided to end my contract instead.
Some Ullah person replied to my message here...So here is mine to her or him....
So, I haven't done anything and my case is closed? I made no efforts at all? What nerve!
Thanks for letting me know because I emailed Mr Wagner last week to try and get some news and I've been expecting his reply since then, which I haven't received yet! So surprising....
I emailed Mr Wagner a huge number of times over the years and never got any satisfying reply from him. He's nothing more but a liar, and a very good one. Every reply I got from him was "Don't worry, we're working on your case and you'll have your payment very soon, we take this very seriously". Nothing but lies, all the time.
I ended up threatening Mr Wagner, I told him that I would sue him. This had no impact on him, he never cared. He went on with his lies.
He told me that the client had been sued and let me know the name of the sollicitor in charge, whom I emailed to get a confirmation and I NEVER heard anything from this so-called lawyer. And here is another lie!
Moreover, the problem has been lasting not for 5 years but for 8 years, since October 2010!
I'm not the only one to complain about Mr Wagner, many people have been complaining for many years too, Mr Wagner's company is considered a bad payer and a scam. The reports on the Translatorscafé and the ratings on Proz speak for themselves.
Don't try and fool anyone out there, your company and its boss is definitely not reliable.
you provided a wrong bank account to us and your payment bounced. You have been re-issued in a timely manner the payment to your account, minus the banking fees that your bank took for the payment. Nonetheless, we can forward you telling the firm that you actually did send an old account. We even shared the costs on this. Nonetheless, all the best to you.
Dear Wagner Payroll,
I always provided the correct data for the bank transfer in all e-mail messages sent to Wagner.
Your company stopped attending my bank transfer requests.
Thus, I use this resource since you never write to my e-mail address about anything.
My bank acknowledges to transfered back the money to your bank's company, and your company claims never received that money back.
I provide supportive documents issued from my local bank attached here.
Please check my local Bank transfer issued tracking result as image document.
My local bank PDF includes the transfer code of the transaction wiring back the money to Wagner's bank in the US.
Please bear in mind I have been requesting to transfer my money again since April 2018 related to your last money transfer of December 2017 year.
There is clear evidence Wagner has my money to proceed carrying out the corresponding bank transfer again.
There is no evidence of claiming other false, or wrong data provided by me or my local Bank as Wagner claims.
I expect you solve this issue during the course of the next week, at once.
Thank you in advance hoping to solve this problem your company overlooked.
No, because most agencies are reliable and trustworthy. They are honest to you and pay you right on time.
However, you still have to be careful and the best thing to do before starting a collaboration with a new agency is to seek information on the Internet via websites like this one or other ones like the Translatorscafé or Proz.
Better miss a job than start one that you will in the end lead you to payment (and therefore trust) issues. If you have to fight to get paid for the very first job you get, then don't go on with the agency.
Wagner Consulting International are notorious non-payers and they have been at it for years.
I did not consider this advice and today I have problems to get my money.
Thank you for the wise advice.
Since June I have been waiting for a payment from Wagner international!
What to do when a Company does n't pay?
Thanks for your reply
I only hope Chris, and whoever is unlucky enough to be contacted to translate for Wagner corp., keeps on reading all these negative reviews of Wagner corp., to stop denying the reality, and beware of one undeniable fact: WAGNER DOES NOT PAY!!!!!
I`m working with the team of Wagner for several years now, and they make up for anything by providing a constant workflow. they are not the fastest, but have you looked at other companies or scammers? I´d choose Wagner over any other company all the time! And haters hate, right?
I agree with the positive posters, I’ve been a big fan of this company. Read their guidelines and all is just fine. Also, they all reply, a friendly and support you. Why do they need to teach you about how to invoice them, they helped me out in the beginning when I clearly screwed up, but you should be able to actually do this yourself.
I agree that they are tricky to get a hold of when it comes to paying, but if you tell them in a nice way, eventually you will get paid. I have been paid 4 months in a row now.
You may be one of the rare exceptions that prove the rule!
I had to contact a debt collector to get my money and the business is not an easy one!
I'm happy to hear that some of the people who have worked with Wagner have had good experiences and have actually been paid, yet I'm baffled by the condescending tone some of the positive posters take. Non-payment from Wagner is not simply a matter of incorrect invoicing, nor does it help to be positive and try to work things out. I accepted several assignments from them, was nothing but professional, delivered on time, even when they changed the original assignment several times. I then invoiced, and heard nothing back. I've resent the invoices several times, to everyone I had contact info to, and not a single person ever responded. Yesterday, after going through their website yet again and contacting even more people, I finally got a snooty reply from their invoices department saying they had never received anything from me. I was never given a separate contact for sending invoices, in fact, no one at Wagner has ever replied to any email from me after I sent them the final files I was working on.
It's all well and good claiming that people just need to "be nice and talk things over", but first of all, if nobody is willing to talk back, that's not an option, and secondly, we have all performed a service for Wagner. We are entitled to get paid in a timely manner, and we shouldn't have to beg and plead for that. I doubt that I will ever see the money they owe me, but I will keep chasing it.
Hi, Wagner is only paying people they need. ie only if you are worth keeping around in their mind, they will actually pay you. They have paid me after over a month of daily emails, they owe me about 6k USD now. They pay translators about 20-30% of the budget they get (or less). I have contact to many PMs and befriended some of them. they allways come up with stories about big clients not paying them, or issues with the bank or payoneer or something else.
firstname.lastname@example.org (ask for Natalia)
Spam them at all addresses, best of luck,I hope we will all get paid.
In short, toxic company, highly disrespectful, and deserves an audit from the IRS with its corresponding banning & fine. Wagner simply steals money from it's LSP vendors. My hope is the U.S. government shuts down that scam type of company
Did the debt collector show effect?
Not yet as for me... It may take a lot of time...
I worked with Wagner between Dec. 2016 and Nov. 2018. They almost paid with 1-2 months delay. But since April 2018, their payment morale became worse. I had to send reminder emails to the invoice@.. more than three times to get paid one invoice. The invoices of October and November 2018 are still pending. Natalia promised at the end of year to process the payment in January. Then, she said in February they had a bank issue. Since then, I get only automatic replies. No real reaction. I don't know what to do.
I worked for them and am about to get my final payment, you need to bombard them with emails, everyone, natalia, the project managers everyone, they will not pay you orherwise.
I think we have to act.
You know Wagner takes us all for animals.
I will circulate a petition that we will send to the President of the United States.
Because Wagner Consulting works against US government interest. Let me explain: the government wants less to immigrate to the US, and that is why it funds development aid programs. But Wagner Consulting on his side for people coming over to the US by not paying them their salary. In addition we are professionals, so Wagner Consulting abuses us unlike the labor legislation.
So I will send you a petition.
Those who agree will be able to contact Adobe and we will forward it to the various labor regulatory agencies in the US and also to the US President on his Twitter account hoping he will read it and act.
Sorry Jeff but the President of the USA doesn't care about our problems with Wagner! What I did a few months ago was to get a debt collector on their track but it's not easy. I don't know if I will eventually get the 1,800 euros Wagner's been owing me since 2009.
Maybe if more people around the world who worked for Wagner did the same, there could be a result, but, to be honest, I'm not that sure.
These guys are tough...
As I said I got my almost 9000 USD from them (in pieces and over half a year, but I got them) just pressure them and threaten to sue (get a lawyer if possible)
Sorry to disappoint you, but they probably won't pay... These people are in no way reliable.
They owed me almost 9000 USD, you need to preassure them, all of them, all day every day, and they will pay. It is a very scummy and unprofessional agency.
Natalia told me I could receive the payment on February 10th and also told me because of the problem of bank, I didn’t receive it, I still didn’t receive it. Since then, I get only automatic replies, too...
I don't know what to do.
I am sorry to tell you that, you should just now end your collaboration with them. As thing started like that, you are not going to receive your payment.
So please end now before having problem an amount of $2000 not paid, like me.
But good luck if you want to continue working with them.
Don't work for Wagner. They do not pay!
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